All schools funded in part or in whole by the state should have to accept the vast majority of their pupils on the basis of proximity to the school, or better still on a ‘Fair Bands’ system.   The current system allowing state funded ‘Voluntary Aided’ schools to select their pupils on the basis of faith should be abolished.

Up and down the country, if the best local school is Voluntary Aided, you’ll find aspirational parents making a show of attending the relevant church from the arrival of their firstborn in an effort to get their kids into this school.  In many areas this has created a polarization of pupils between schools; the church schools have the advantage of educating children of predominantly informed and proactive parents, those informed and proactive parents who fail to get their kids into the local church schools tend either to go private or to move to an area where they can afford a home within the catchment of a good non-selective state school (expensive, but cheaper than going independent), leaving neighbouring non-selective schools to struggle to provide a high standard of education without the advantage of having predominantly informed and proactive parents which the faith schools enjoy.  The local non-church schools therefore are attended by a disproportionate number of pupils who don’t come from families with such social capital, including those from ethnic minorities, refugees / new entrants to the UK, children for whom English is an additional language (EAL) and those with parents who aren’t informed enough about education to make an active choice about where their children are educated.  It is self evident that at a certain level of complexity, schools struggle to achieve the best in outcomes.  Even ‘outstanding’ teachers struggle to ensure that every child in their class fulfils their potential when they have to cater for an extremely complex set of needs.  We end up with one extreme of state school with vastly differing value sets, learning needs and aspirations or ‘complex urban schools’; and then the other extreme type of state school, the local Voluntary Aided church school, which brim with the advantages of social capital.   Neither type of school offers a child a social experience that is rounded or representative of our diverse country. 

Finland’s education system has no selection at all (not even independent schools exist); they have their share of poverty and other social problems and with a fully comprehensive school system they achieve outstanding results. Teaching children in accordance with their parents’ religious views in accordance with the European Convention on Human Rights does not mean that children of parents with other beliefs should be discriminated against by being excluded from such education. 

The Coalition Government have promised they “will work with faith groups to enable more faith schools and facilitate inclusive admissions policies in as many of these schools as possible.”   They need to take this further and ensure that all schools with any element of state funding will have to select pupils predominantly on the basis of proximity to the school or on the basis of fair banding (which ensures that the school’s pupils are a representative mixture of the abilities of the population).  

If a school wants to select any of its pupils on the basis of faith, then it should be wholly independently funded and not take any kind of state subsidy.   Why should the state be funding schools that select children on this basis?  It would be more ‘Christian’ for a school to support and educate its direct neighbours.

Why the contribution is important

It will improve academic results, behaviour and aspirations a for millions of children who currently attend complex urban schools.  It will improve the social experiences of children who currently attend single faith schools, thus improving social understanding and cohesion.  

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GazzaP
Posted by GazzaP July 06, 2010 at 14:10
unfortunately, this proposal is predominantly anti-Christian, rather than anti-faith.

There are now many schools in urban and suburban areas where the ethnic minority is now white-British and selection would seem to be based on ethnicity.

This proposal has validity only if ALL forms of selection are removed. For example, there should be no girls-only or boys only schools.

Similarly, Headteachers should be held to account where the ethnic mix of a school does not accurately reflect the mix of the surrounding catchment area's population.

Tackling faith-based selection only only addresses part of the issue.

So, with regard to state subsidies, I partly agree, but we are also a country that has great diversity, and there must be room in our system for teaching in a variety of contexts, with different policies for different geographic locations and their ethnic/faith mix.

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chouse
Posted by chouse July 06, 2010 at 14:44
 This may only tackle part of the issue but it is a start. Taxes are taken universally and where schools receive money from the state it comes from us all, representation and taxation are supposed to go hand in hand. I support this idea

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getcarternow
Posted by getcarternow July 06, 2010 at 16:50
Just stop faith schools getting tax money, their faith will see them through.

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mabon2010
Posted by mabon2010 July 06, 2010 at 18:13
I oppose this proposal.
Diversity and choice is the way forward for school education. I would like to see a voucher system so that parents/carers can decide if they wish their child to go to a faith school. Let market conditions prevail where a school is funded by the choice of the parent/carer rather than political correctness of LEA's and the Government.

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tjstapley
Posted by tjstapley July 06, 2010 at 21:45
State funded education should be secular

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hollium
Posted by hollium July 06, 2010 at 22:08
It's always been my opinion that separation of faith schools from mainstream teaching is actually blighting the integration and understanding between faiths, and alienating followers of say Orthodox Christianity instead of allowing others to understand other views.

Faith schools, if their continued existence is permitted, should not be state-funded: this is a supposed to be a secular country.

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georgericks
Posted by georgericks July 07, 2010 at 07:06
State and religion shall not be mixed. Children and religion shall not be mixed. Teach children evidence based facts and decent morals not about fictitious man dreamt up god(s).

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bobferdinand
Posted by bobferdinand July 07, 2010 at 10:15
Parents should teach moral philosophy /religion to their children if they wish and not dump that responsibility on teachers. Also, all symobols of religion should be banned from schools: they are divisive. If parents want thir children to attend a school which includes the advancement of a particular faith in its curriculum, they should pay for that themselves.

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joannakbutler
Posted by joannakbutler July 07, 2010 at 21:15
Dear GazzaP,

This proposal is not predominantly anti-Christian, nor indeed anti-faith. I am a Christian and I value what faiths can bring to individuals and to society. However, I also recognise the value that people of no specific religion can bring and the critical importance of ensuring children understand that others have differing ethnicities and faiths to themselves if we are to have a cohesive society. I have taught in urban schools where the ethnic minority is now white British. Indeed, where I live we have two types of local schools: those attended 99% by children from white British Catholics or white British Church of England middle class well educated families, and those attended 90% by non white non British non Christian families (there aren't any local state schools of other faiths but there is a fabulous mix of children from other religious and non-religious backgrounds and from a variety of different countries and mother tongues). Neither type of school is currently representative, because where Voluntary Aided schools select kids on the basis of (usually Christian) faith, the kids of that faith are separated. I agree with you that the ethnic mix of a school should accurately reflect the mix of the surrounding catchment area's population as long as catchment area is defined as distance to school. The proposal is valid and would make a massive contribution to the all round and academic education of children whether or not single sex schools can continue or would be removed as well.
Tackling faith-based selection may only addresses part of the issue, but it is a critical part and you have got to start somewhere.
Best Regards,
Joannakbutler

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catherinew
Posted by catherinew July 07, 2010 at 22:05
I agree with this proposal - it is deeply wrong that taxpayer-funded schools are able to select their pupils by the intensity of their families' religious observance. State schools should accept local children regardless of faith.

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rgreenwood
Posted by rgreenwood July 07, 2010 at 22:35
I think it is both the right and responsibility of parents to bring up their children as they see fit. This includes the religious education of their children which, often, they see as of paramount importance. Therefore they naturally want their child to be educated in the context of their religious faith. Most can not afford a private education so this education should be undertaken in state funded schools (eg Anglican, Catholic). Non-religious schools also have a place and they will have their own values. Providing the religion and their schools are not inimical to civil society (eg a theocratic religion) I think faith schools have a place in the state sector.

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mattdathan
Posted by mattdathan July 08, 2010 at 19:33
I agree with this proposal. To me, this has little, if anything, to do with religious belief - this is about equality of opportunity and creating an outcome that maximizes the benefit to both individuals and society.
As a parent of three children, I know that a child with "informed and proactive" parents will always have a head start over those without. If such parents care enough about religion, ethnicity, culture, etc to want to send their children to a school that suits these specific needs, then our society should allow them the freedom to exercise this choice, but without using taxpayers money.
Our society (the State) should concentrate on providing a broad-based education that equips children to be effective and contributing members of the communities within which they will live. By having state-funded schools that are allowed to select pupils based on criteria that can be 'gamed' provides an unfair advantage to 'informed and proactive' parents over those whose children more desperately need the best education our tax money can buy.
The result is a vicious cycle of increasing the gap between differences in outcomes. In the 21st Century, our society should move on from such relics of the past.

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debi
Posted by debi July 08, 2010 at 20:53
I wholeheartedly agree with the proposal. The current system is grossly unfair. All children should be entitled to a high academic standard of education in an environment which reflects and prepares them for our multi-cultural society, regardless of family income or religious belief.

My child is not eligible to attend either of the two excellent schools a stone's throw from our home and as a consequence we are facing a choice between the crippling fees of private schooling or a standard of education which will not bring the best out in him. almost all his friends are continuing on to the local schools, so this outdated system will deprive him of really being a part of his local community too.

wrong all around.

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angelab
Posted by angelab July 09, 2010 at 17:07
I wholeheartedly agree too. Schools are so important for socialisation, they should not be allowed to be divisive. And it's difficult enough to cater for differing educational needs, that depend on individual differences between children, without adding in the parents' religion. Parents who want their children to have special religious or cultural education beyond what is provided by the school can arrange it at the weekend.

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clareshaw
Posted by clareshaw July 19, 2010 at 11:18
Education is the most valuable commodity in our society. Where in previous centuries parents have received food, shelter or other charity to support their children from The Church in exchange for obsequious attendance, now parents must do the same for education. It was blackmail of the worst kind when it was subsistence charity. We are given food, shelter and healthcare by the welfare state now in times of need. Let's finish the job and make sure that we aren't at the mercy of The Church when seeking the next most important thing in our children's lives : A decent education.

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shawp13
Posted by shawp13 July 19, 2010 at 14:45
Completely agree. As someone whose children were turned down from a school 20m from my front door becaus I refused to participate in the hipocrisy that nearly all middle-class parents seem to have to through (i.e. pretend to be religious and attend church), it's a disgrace that tax money goes to schools that descrminate on religious grounds. Faith schools should fund themselves.

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happytwinkle
Posted by happytwinkle July 22, 2010 at 20:04
http://www.independent.co.ukopinion/commentators/dominic-lawson/dominic-lawson-critics-of-faith-schools-wont-acknowledge-why-they-succeed-1914315.html/

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happytwinkle
Posted by happytwinkle July 22, 2010 at 20:06
shawp I would be more worried about your own education than your children's, especially when there is a spell check on here. Lead and they shall follow, mate

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ljm
Posted by ljm July 26, 2010 at 22:38
If the school receive taxes from all it is not equitable to allow admssion to the school for a select few. The schools could continue to be run with the guiding principles of whichever faith it chooses, but it should not be allowed to set admission criteria based on this.

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JHolwell
Posted by JHolwell July 27, 2010 at 08:45
I completely disagree with this idea; you are effectively attempting social engineering which is outside the remit of the state. You seem too correctly surmise that all children deserve a good education however you intend to dictate to all parents what that education should entail. If a sufficient amount of citizen’s desire schools based on specific religious then it is the obligation of any democratic country to provide the desires of its citizens. If other citizens feels hard done by because the group who set up their faith based schools is doing well then they should have the right to organize their own with equal government backing. Gate crashing the religious groups system is just going to ruin it for everyone.

Another equally fair option would be if the government makes all schools private then gives everyone a sum of money equal to the amount it would cost to educate their children in a state school. Parents can then choose where to send their kids. Unless this happens it is unfair to deny religious families who have paid just as much tax as atheist families the provision from the state to educate their children as they wish.

You also fail to state how religious school’s managed to start getting better exam results in the first place in order to begin the stampede of “informed and proactive parents”. Heaven forbid someone should suggest it could be caused by a basic ethos that exists in the more religious members of our population which is then passed on to their children.

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mojo
Posted by mojo August 26, 2010 at 10:17
Any time tax money is involved secularism should be the only option.

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JHolwell
Posted by JHolwell August 31, 2010 at 19:55
Sorry mojo but you seem to be unaware of where tax money comes from. You may or may not have noticed a little deduction from your pay check, i'll let you in on a secret... that's called tax and guess what... your not the only one one paying it.

Tax money comes from me and it comes from you then the government tries to use it to make a nice happy society for me and for you. If they spent all the tax money on what mojo wants that might make mojo happy :) but it would make other people sad :( hopefully I have helped you understand a little about the way the world works mojo.

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