The current definition of forestry is limited and is inconsistent with DEFRA'S latest strategy for Trees, Woods and Forests which states that community and educational use of woodlands is core to it's aims.

Under current planning law, woodlands are only available for 'non forestry' use for 28 days a year. This means that community forest schools (which offer children opportunities to learn and connect with their environment), woodland playschemes and conservation groups using young people as volunteers may be required to apply for change of use. Current definitions of land use are also inflexible so that there are no sub groups; educational use is presumed to be a 'school' and a conservation project can find themselves being asked to supply car parking to the same specifications as a new build school in order to get change of use.

I would like the definition of forestry and agrigulture to be more flexible- to allow for sustainable community growing and conservation projects.

Why the contribution is important

Currently valuable projects are vulnerable as technically they are operating in contravention of planning if they use sites for more than 28 days per year.

Planning officersoften turn a blind eye because they realize these projects are important but if anyone complains they are forced to investigate.

This is an unnecessary strain on projects, many valuable ones have been forced to close.

Voluntary and community groups can provide a really valuable, low cost service to communities and should not have to deal with these bureaucratic obstacles. For example by offering volunteering opportunities to those with learning difficulties, the unemployed, young people disaffected from school and society, groups like these fullfill a really important role.

Providing that the project is well run and low impact and is intrinsically connected to the original purpose of the land eg forestry or agriculture (to include food growing) they should be allowed to continue unobstructed.

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rsandover
Posted by rsandover July 09, 2010 at 11:48
This is fundamentally important, especially as it links in with so many of govt policies such as 'Every Child Matters' (health and wellbeing opportunities), Food 2030 (demonstrating sustainable food production and cookery) etc. It also fits into recent scientific papers on exercising outside being of benefit to mental health.

It is a creative approach to education and gives children an outdoors experience who may not otherwise have one and in a way that keeps them safe and inspired.

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dwrathall
Posted by dwrathall July 09, 2010 at 12:30
Children need to feel connected to nature before they will value it. Forest school helps to achieve this and its importance cannot be overstated.

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PRGC
Posted by PRGC July 09, 2010 at 17:16
The forset environment should be available 365 days a year to our young people.

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petermillar
Posted by petermillar July 09, 2010 at 18:33
Millions of pounds of Charity, Lottery, NHS, DFE, Forestry Commission & Local Authority funds have been poured into projects to promote environmental awareness, skills acquisition, obesity reduction etc. etc. etc. There are hundreds of projects around the country at risk of disruption and closure because of the way planning systems are currently operating. Every pound of public or charity funding diverted into fighting pointless battles like this is one less pound for providing services that mitigate the effect on society of essential government cuts to public spending.

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feedallbirds
Posted by feedallbirds July 09, 2010 at 22:19
I think Forest schools and similar enterprises are vital for children's development. Please support this proposal. Our local group is having to go through so many planning hoops just so children can use the forest - it is so wrong to put all the blocks up - planners should be ashamed of themselves. This is a fantastic way to use our woods and forests and should be actively encouraged not blocked.

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DeclanTimberwolfAshweaverMillar
Posted by DeclanTimberwolfAshweaverMillar July 10, 2010 at 00:13
The fact that the current definition of forestry is so limited and makes life difficult for those trying to help their communities and the environment is most upsetting. We need to encourage more people to connect with the woodland spirit, so as to further understand the nature to which we are undenyingly an element of. Plant trees, we depend on them and they need us to make the right choices.

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rsoler
Posted by rsoler July 10, 2010 at 10:11
this is very important for education and for the environment

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joanlawson
Posted by joanlawson July 10, 2010 at 18:23
As a director of an environmental education charity, I believe access to wild outdoor places, like forests, is every child's right This ammendment to the law is very important

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crisscross
Posted by crisscross July 10, 2010 at 20:25
There is certainly no need for dividing any real action, like forestry or farming/growing, from education. The education is going to involve some doing, surely; even if its only pulling aside some brash, recording species and wildlife etc etc.

So how can planning law have got so pedantic that it has to place a dividing line? It does need to be rubbed out!

This must also be applied unevenenly from LA to LA as my grandchildren in Surrey had a birthday party in woodland, complete with classrooms/party venues as well as a very educational AND enjoyable walk/scramble

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dmillar
Posted by dmillar July 11, 2010 at 09:59
All our activities with children involve woodland maintenance. They are the ones clearing glades to plant up with native broadleaves, restoring the pond, making bird boxes and putting them up. It is all 100% linked to forestry and conservation. If these activities were done by paid forestry workers it would be fine. Because they are done by children and young people or adults with learning difficulties, it somehow counts as 'education' and needs express permission.
www.wilderwoods.org

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andyg
Posted by andyg July 12, 2010 at 09:22
I am a youthworker working with young people from rural communities. Very often these young people are the hard to reach, disadvantaged young people at risk of disengaging from education. The Environmental Volunteering project that we engage these young people in helps to build their confidence and self-esteem, it promotes awareness of global environmental issues, benefits their health and well being. It also provides opportunities to gain qualifications that for some could lead to rural employment, this in turn helping to sustain the fragile rural economy and communities. The current restricted use of woodlands for 'non forestry' activity has a negative impact on this project. It cannot be right to deny these young people opportunities because of the inflexible legal definition of 'forestry'.

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tmalim
Posted by tmalim July 12, 2010 at 14:47
I fully support this suggestion. Planning laws and the planning system is there to prevent inappropriate development, it is not there to disenfranchise communities from use of their own landscape. Projects that help children understand woodlands and the countryside, and open up access to them, should be encouraged, not restricted by unnecessary and costly bureaucratic burdens.

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yojohnny
Posted by yojohnny July 13, 2010 at 21:22
Britain, what a beautiful green and pleasant land. In a society that spends so much time glued to screens and surrounded by man-made structures, I think that projects that encourage people to venture out into The Great Outdoors can only be of benefit to the well being of the individual and of society. Laws that make this difficult should, in my opinion, be urgently reviewed.

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eddy
Posted by eddy July 16, 2010 at 18:14
would be great to see the return of common sense and flexibility,
so that excellent projects e.g. that involve children and adults experiencing and learning about the great outdoors and about themselves in relation to this, can truly blossom.

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rabbs
Posted by rabbs July 19, 2010 at 13:26
This is an excellent idea, it is silly that the community use of woodland is not considered.

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Millett
Posted by Millett July 26, 2010 at 12:07
This is fundamental to the health not only of our children but also to our nation. Children need the opportunity to explore and learn to manage risk and without this ability our society will become risk averse. The use of woods needs to be in line with DEFRa's ie educational.

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guymallinson
Posted by guymallinson August 04, 2010 at 16:22
This has my full support, it is important that the law is changed. Our Woodland Workshop offers a lot to many and the planning law caused us long delays, unnecessary costs and a lot of wasted time and energy. We did get change of use but this should not have been necessary.

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EJWilson
Posted by EJWilson August 18, 2010 at 11:29
I agree that the definition of forestry needs to be clarified to include education and conservation. It is crucial that local people can be involved with their woodlands, take part in activities out of doors and feel an active sense of involvement in our forests. I carry out voluntary conservation work in woodland and take my children to participate in woodland activities. It makes a huge difference to my life to have this link to wild places. My children will have a greater respect for woodlands and forestry because of our families involvement with their local woods.

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pennyb
Posted by pennyb August 25, 2010 at 19:29
This is an excellent suggestion, we are lucky enough to live next to a wood, and our children have learned so much from it. It should be something that every child has the opportunity to benefit from.

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jdoyle
Posted by jdoyle August 31, 2010 at 16:54
With so many projects and initiatives involving children, young people and families, helping them to access the outdoors and natural environment, it is essential these groups have continued access to local forests and woodlands. More and more reseach shows the diverse benefits to groups using the natural environment meeting many local and national objectives.

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