I think it is a great mistake to house people at random under one roof without consideration for the consequences as housing organisations do . People with grave mental problems or addictions can create big problems to their neighbours but housing organisations are less concerned about this than they should be and I'm not the first to say this! Why must somebody who is violent and very aggressive to his or her near neighbours, for example, be suffered and given more legal rights over so called normal people who might just want to live their lives in peace? It is very hard to evict them or to be protected from their behaviour, no matter what they do, for the law states that, because they have 'mental health problems' they have more rights than the other residents, which means rights to create absolute hell for other people and not be evicted. The Nanny State branch of the N.H.S.... or is it the social services, called the 'Community Mental Health Team' ( who really would be best dispensed with altogether!) act like a hysterical bunch of do badder do gooders by foisting their bizarre services often at the whim of a faceless bureaucrat in a housing association on the wrong people and leaving the really ill folk seriously alone. I think it was Harriet Harman ? who insisted everyone should come out of the hospitals, and what a great idea, but there is no provision made to ensure the affliction of their problems onto those around them does not occur. If they go to prison heaven help their neighbour or neighbours when they come out again! I don't want to sound cruel but I know instances where this has happened and the whole system in housing appears somewhat dysfunctional, to say the least. In Holland there is a separate housing policy which works well for everybody!!

Why the contribution is important

It is about the legal right to live peacefully in one's home. It is also about harsh conditions in affordable housing which might be overlooked and which are often unavoidable. It is about being trapped for the single reason that to move out of social housing into the private market means 6 weeks deposit, one month's rent in advance, an estate agent's fee and in one borough this amounts to roughly two and a half thousand pounds at the outset as the sum which is to be produced, which is very expensive indeed. Therefore social mobility in the renting sector is simply not possible!! Who is addressing this issue in government, please.  Private rents should come down to a more reasonable level, surely.  It is also about care in the community which in practice is not there! The nanny state for all its interference is tyrannical and should be done away with.

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John1Me2
Posted by John1Me2 July 10, 2010 at 12:40
Housing should be allocated on the basis of who is highest on the list, not who has just turned up from Eastern Europe.
Similarly Benefits should require a period of residence before being paid, not an immediate handout.

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mart17sept
Posted by mart17sept July 10, 2010 at 12:43
Good to know that Sun readers are contributing

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Afield
Posted by Afield July 11, 2010 at 03:44
I fully agree with you on this subject, but from a completely different persepective.

I suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and live among a bunch of loud mouthed, violent beings who think it is perfectly acceptable to persecute me for plain, simple prejudice. This illness has no cure and is totally ignored by all authorities from health care to the housing associations.

In point of fact, if it hadn't been for a lifetime of extreme abuse and neglect towards me, I'd not now be suffering this illness and had much to offer the world as a person.

To be dumped in among the very things that caused my illness in the first place was both irresponsible and neglectful in the extreme. The housing authorities were more than appraised of my circumstance, illness and needs, yet they chose to completely ignore my needs as a damaged person. The landlord even adds to the burden, treating me with the same contempt and destructive attitude as those they force me to live among.

Within months of moving to this address, I was being mercilessly bullied by the upstairs neighbours and gossipmongered to death by the so called normal people living on the estate.

My complaints and requests for rehousing in more suitable accommodation were completely negated and ignored by the landlord. The landlord was more than happy to help those who were persecuting me, though; all those monsters were given instant support and sympathy, including moving them to new accommodation to avoid the bullies I was expected to endure; I had in fact endured much worse trouble from them and for much longer than anyone else in the area.

Five years now I have had to tolerate these violent, selfish bullies and being treated like a monster by the landlord. My health is utterly destroyed, morale is at zero and I'm a broken woman with no hope of escape or recovery. There is no support, sympathy or way out for me and I haven't the means to escape these circumstances. I despise the way mental health issues are just shunted for the convenience of those deemed worthwhile and normal people.

I am at this site to try to empower myself, to demand action and help for people like me; those living in intolerable circumstances because society deems them disposable, worthless and of no consequence.

The Declaration of Human Rights is worthless while such as us are not given the same right to live in peace and with the same opportunities to a normal life as everyone else.

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lynnissa
Posted by lynnissa July 11, 2010 at 08:55
we are given to believe that we are an 'anti-bully' country, but we all know we are not. It seems that the authorities are afraid of the bullys and therefore get away with whatever anti-social behavior they can.They shout the loudest and they are heard.
We have thousands of mental patients walking the streets or harrassing their neighbours. They dont even have to take the medication they are given..its against their human rights.
If they commit a crime they are out in prison, not a hospital.
Care in the comunity and the silly housing regulations dont work

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dagthorpe
Posted by dagthorpe July 15, 2010 at 17:52
Come on 'sandleb', you should know that the Human Rights Act only applies to criminals and those who just don't want to be part of a decent society, the rest of us only have human responsibilities!

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sandieb
Posted by sandieb July 24, 2010 at 10:38
Dear Afield, your comment, after mine, was very sad! The truth is there is no power who will help you, and sometimes I think anybody in social housing because it is a fact that the poor don't matter in our developed country and people in affordable housing have no rights to choose where they live (or who they have as neighbours!)and even no right to grumble about their lot. But dont despair. Life is still precious. Look out for good things, like the sun is shining, the flowers are out, I expect you will have some friends who do value you. Take care. All the best!

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