As this is a Christian country, the Christian way of life should be respected and should not be 'brushed under the carpet' just to accommodate other religeons so as ''not to offend them''.  Most other religeons are happy to worship alongside Christians in the same community, but I believe it is wrong that for example Christmas cards depicting the birth of Jesus Christ, Easter cards depicting Christian symbols, etc should be barred from being on display and replaced by pictures of easter eggs, bunny rabbits and unreligeous symbols on Christmas cards or even not displayed at all  incase non Christians are offended.  This is a Christian nation and as such we should be honoured to display our beliefs and not have others be ashamed of us when it comes to religeon.

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We as a nation should be able to be open with our religeous beliefs - we allow others to worship freely, so we should be happy to be open in our religeous beliefs.  I fully accept that some do not have any religeous connections with any church and I respect that, but for those of us who do, we should be allowed to stand up publicly for what we believe and not feel we have to hide our beliefs. If our religeon means we want to wear a crucifix symbol to work on full view we should be allowed to. I personally prefer not to wear such a symbol but I respect those that do.  If I want to read my scriptures on the bus/train, read them while I am eating my lunch at work, etc, then I should be allowed to without any backlash from anyone.  Thats my choice and I should be allowed that freedom. Religeous freedom is for everyone, not for other religeons and never mind the Christians of this country.  Get things on a fair balance.

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JMWhite
Posted by JMWhite July 10, 2010 at 22:52
Being a christian myself I highly agree with this.

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amfalk
Posted by amfalk July 10, 2010 at 22:52
I think if you look again you'll find this is a secular country, which I think is a good thing. Rather a secular country than a nation of hypocrites.

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openhearts
Posted by openhearts July 10, 2010 at 23:22
This point raised is fair. The National Secular Society has raised objections of people even praying in council chambers The theophobia or religiousophobia which this organisation seeks to promote would make it an offence for anyone in authority to simply admit they have religious beliefs publically, as their charter states "Political leaders should not express religious preferences in the course of their duties".
Surely to have restored freedom of expression, we need to repeal recent partisan laws and permit people to say what they want, providing they do not promote physical or mental harm against others. The problem with the present legislation is Christian and Muslim minority communities are being victimized and viciously prejudiced against throughout secular media without the right to reply. There has to be a kind of personal vendetta then slander or libel laws can be used.
A fairer system would allow people to appeal to something like a small claims court with an independent panel of experts with representatives of both sides with the power to fine or restrict the activities of institutionalized prejudice against religious beliefs. If they continue then they would be in breach of a judicial decision.
E.g. Books, Magazines, Newspapers, Radio and TV depict Christians as engaging in activities of abuse and aggression against gays- this is nothing but propaganda and is making many atheists and agnostics feel free to express anti-Christian and prejudice against Christians and their beliefs.

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clair
Posted by clair July 11, 2010 at 08:11
I agree with the statement put forward but we must be carefull about passing laws.There are extreemists Christian groups who like extreemists of other faiths would silence any other views.I am a Christian but would defend anyone's right to rubish my beliefs or actions.Freedom of speach must always be possible.We should be judged by how we live our lives and our love of our fellow man.I am all for interfaith dialogue and sharing.

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Anne_M
Posted by Anne_M July 11, 2010 at 13:54
Where are Christmas and Easter cards (of any type) barred? I've always found plenty on sale, in season.

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amfalk
Posted by amfalk July 11, 2010 at 16:27
In today's secular society a persecution complex leads to a diagnosis of paranoia

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JohnnyB
Posted by JohnnyB July 11, 2010 at 17:41
>webdesigner "Why am I called a bigot and told to 'shut up' if I say that I think homosexuals are wrong?"

Because it's bigotted and we find it offensive.

What makes you think you can pick and choose which bits of the Bible to follow and which to ignore? Or do you think that eating shellfish and shaving your sideburns is also an abomination.

Also, if Christians don't have religious freedom, how come I'm watching Songs of Praise right now?

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RichardJC
Posted by RichardJC July 13, 2010 at 08:15
Just as you are free to say that homosexuality is wrong and refer to the bible as your reasoning, others are free to claim that is is acceptable and refer to whatever they wish to refer to as their reasoning. We get debates which can be heated, but I don't believe you are banned from expressing your side.

"Respect" does not mean "Deference".

If you act to harm a homosexual person, including for example to deny them their livelihood, then you need far more than "the bible says so" to justify that. Otherwise you will be told to stop. That is fair. The law in this country has to balance their rights as well as yours.

Prayers before meetings - why should those in the meeting who are non-Christian have to pray to your god? I've experienced situations where it went beyond merely a minute or so while someone prayed, to overtly religious statements in the meetings and collections for things like sending bibles to "spread The Word" in foreign countries. Maybe that's an exception to the norm.

There's nothing stopping you praying yourself before the meeting. Remember Matthew 6:5 and 6:6, which if I understand correctly warns against prayer to be seen praying.

I think some of the problem comes from the evangelicals. If more Christians were less condemning of others and presented a less condemning message it would be easier to get along with the positive. Tension comes when we have such unmoving absolutes rather than agreeing on the common good. Some of us can be exposed to this message too much, even though most Christians seem quite liberal.

Concerning some of the news releases (which seem to tend to come from a certain lobbying organisation), "witnessing" to a critically ill child is not polite, especially when you are in a position of responsibility and have a duty of care not to cause distress. I understand the nurse was offered the option of wearing her cross as a badge not a necklace, so handily solving the health risks that it presented. That sounds fair to me.

We live in a country where there are churches on many corners, where there are evangelical events widely advertised, where there is religious programming on the state TV and radio stations, where religion is part of school life by law. I don't think you are oppressed.

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cooper
Posted by cooper July 13, 2010 at 20:55
God has given us all the freedom to choose. We can choose to believe him or reject him. Since he has given us that freedom we should be wary about taking it away. Those epeople who reject Christianity are expressing a God given freedom- I think they are wrong, but then that too is my freedom. The worrying thing that I see today is that those who advocate tolerance want it for everone but Christians. An example of this is that Christians are being procecuted for saying that the Bible teaches that Homosexuality is against God's plan for people. I think that this statement is tight but under equality and diversity laws I am at risk of being prosecuted. And that is not tolerance but repressive.

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shadowfirebird
Posted by shadowfirebird July 16, 2010 at 14:29
This isn't a christian country any more. Christianity should not be given any more (or less) tolerance than any other way of thinking.

I'm not aware of anywhere where christian worship is repressed in this country. I think this is something of a straw man. One star.

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mojo
Posted by mojo August 26, 2010 at 10:08
There should be total separation between religion and the state. Feel free to put up your own religious symbols but don't expect the rest of us to endorse them via our taxes and our government institutions.

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